Subscribe by RSSMcCain, Obama sort of agree on Supreme Court ruling (Update)
Following the news that the Supreme Court struck down the District of Columbia gun ban, both Obama and McCain were asked for comment and the two sort of agreed on it, despite McCain taking a swing at Obama for not supporting an amicus brief on the case.
Obama’s statement:
Obama was careful to state that he agreed with the notion that individuals have the right to keep and bear arms, however, jurisdictions also have the right to regulate firearms in many ways.
McCain’s statement:
All-in-all they do seem to agree on the decision, though McCain seems to have supported it from the beginning.
Update
Did Obama flip-flop on the DC gun ban?
In his own words…
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I don’t think Obama really flip-flopped, just clarifying his position which I don’t think he did properly the first time around.
It’s a real curly issue, as law abiding citizens want the right to own a gun yet you don’t want nutters owning one. Unless you have some stronger gun control that will inevitably infringe on the good citizens, I don’t see how gun crime in America will ever be solved.
Well, I’m going to try to remain neutral on this subject, but the NRA certainly hasn’t, and doesn’t agree with you, nzpudding, that he didn’t flip-flop. Their website has - since last month - taken a very negative view of Obama. They had said last month that they would not officially endorse a candidate until October, but I think that will be moot by then. I think they make it pretty clear here:
http://www.nraila.org/Leg.....px?id=3991
And a statement on the ruling last Friday here:
http://www.nraila.org/leg.....px?id=4054
That article begins:
“Obama Trys to Move Forward by Backpeddling”
“By now we all know where presidential nominee Barack Obama stands on the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for “sportsmen” or unfounded claims of general support for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. But don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric! His real record, based on votes taken, political associations, long-standing positions, and his own words, shows that Barack Obama is a very serious threat to our Second Amendment liberties.”
And this From Fact Check about Obama tap dancing on his stance on Gun Ban. So hey quite possibly is a threat looking at the history!
“Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois.
Gibson: And in 1996, your campaign issued a questionnaire, and your writing was on the questionnaire that said you favored a ban on handguns.
Obama: No, my writing wasn’t on that particular questionnaire, Charlie. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns.
Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. This is a story that has been evolving since last December, when Politico.com obtained a copy of the questionnaire the Obama campaign had completed for a Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois-Independent Precinct Organization. One of the questions dealt with a ban on handguns and assault weapons, and Obama took a hard line:
35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons?Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama’s campaign later told Politico that the candidate “never saw or approved” the completed questionnaire, that his campaign manager had filled it out, and that she “unintentionally mischaracterize[d] his position.”
At the end of March, Politico published another story saying that Obama had actually been interviewed by the group on his answers to the questionnaire, and that he filed an amended version of it the day after the interview. His handwriting was at the bottom of the first page and some answers were modified, such as his response to a question about whether minors should be required to notify their parents or get their consent before having an abortion. The answers to the questions about gun bans, however, were not changed.”
The website is courtesy of Babs
http://www.factcheck.org/.....lphia.html
The second amendment is one reason keeping me from jumping on the Obama bandwagon. I read his web site a while back, and it was, in part, taking away some of our second amendment rights.
I cannot find anything on his web page now addressing the second amendment, which further re-inforces my problem with him on this issue.
Well, as I said, I’m trying to remain neutral on this one. I have very close ties to the Outdoor Industry, but I don’t agree with everything either side says. Dreadsen, I think the final issue that prompted the NRA’s early stance (according to them)was the DC gun ban “flip flop”. He supported it, and then he didn’t. Other than that, I did read interviews on the NRA website that they conducted with BOTH McCain and Obama. Apparently, they brought conclusions away from Obama’s statements made directly to them in that interview that clashed with other statements he’s made before or since, along with his voting record. I will say I think this has been a problem for Obama - taking both sides of an issue in one statement. He seems very adept at it, and he’s ridden the fence on the 2nd amendment issue for years. I guess the NRA says you either take a stand or fall away as far as they’re concerned. I did notice that they didn’t outright endorse McCain, only committed millions to fighting Obama. With a membership of over 2 million people, this is not trivial, and is something Obama might want to pay attention to.
I’ll admit I did like the bumper sticker they’re advertising on the site though - “Gun Clinger Voting for McCain”. The south will be flooded with those, trust me. *LOL*
Hopefully this will cause the Chicago ban to fall as well. In my relatively safe neighborhood we’ve had several break in’s on my block in the past six months. I have absolutely no recourse should someone knock down my door and come at my family. It’s a pretty scary thought. All gun control does is put guns in the hands of criminals and out of the hands of responsible adults.
I’ll say that I don’t believe that the second amendment has anything to do with gun rights. I don’t think that this is something the framers would have included, because gun ownership was pretty much a neccessity and a given during that time period. Militias, on the other hand, were obviously of the utmost importance to the framers, because they were integral to the formation, and protection, of the new union. That said, I think gun bans are pretty much bogus. As with the prohibition of anything (drugs, booze, you name it), gun bans create an influx of illegal firearms, not only inviting organized crime, but also guaranteeing that the only ones who have guns are the criminals. Trust me, though, the Democrats aren’t going to take your guns away.